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Cancun To Show The Foolishness Of The ETS

Act Party Press Release: 30 November 2010

The Climate Change Conference in Cancun might be nothing more than a meaningless and actionless talkfest, but it does have one saving grace – it should show the National Government how foolhardy it would be to continue forging ahead with its Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), ACT Deputy Leader and Climate Change Spokesman John Boscawen said today.

“Like the Copenhagen summit before it, the Cancun conference will consist of nations doing a lot of talking – but ultimately coming to no agreement,” Mr Boscawen said.

“In fact, of all the nations represented in Cancun, only New Zealand jumped in where angels fear to tread – implementing a comprehensive ETS forging ahead with it at a time when all other countries are abandoning theirs.

“In 2009 I warned Climate Change Minister Dr Nick Smith that, with the ETS, he was gambling with our economic future.  I urged him to scrap the ETS or, at the very least, delay it and retain the commonsense ‘wait and see’ approach that National promised in 2008.

Boycott the Cancun Climate Circus

Statement by Viv Forbes, Chairman, the Carbon Sense Coalition

30 November 2010

The Carbon Sense Coalition today called on all Australian governments to boycott the Cancun Climate Change Circus.

 The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said “we do not want a repeat of the Copenhagen obscenity when 45,000 people gathered to discuss how to reduce things like air travel and conspicuous consumption”.

 Forbes said there is no reason for Australia to attend.

 “This conference is no longer about climate – it is about international redistribution of wealth and industry from the west to the rest of the world. Australia is part of the spoils they hope to redistribute.

“There is zero chance of global agreement on emissions trading schemes or more carbon taxes. The political landscape and public opinion in the USA has turned dramatically sceptical of the increasingly shrill predictions from the desperate alarmists. Moreover, trading in carbon credits in Chicago has collapsed and even Al Gore is recanting on ethanol. Without US participation, nothing will be agreed globally.

Methane from livestock not the problem!

 Newsletter from Robin Grieve, Pastural Farming Climate Research

26 November 2010

Enteric methane produced (tonnes)

1990       1,039857

1998       1,069750

1999       1,102670

2000       1,127900

2001       1,101238

2002       1,123076

2003       1,123438

2007       1,111647

2008       1,078928

Enteric methane produced in 2008 was less than that produced in 2000 and virtually the same as in 1998.

Cars, Cattle and the Ethanol Con

Newsletter form Viv Forbes, Carbon-sense coalition:

 23th November 2010

Why are emissions from cattle eating grain classed as bad whereas emissions from cars burning grain ethanol are good?

 Consider a paddock of corn. Most of the carbon in the growing plant comes from carbon dioxide in the air and is converted to plant material using solar energy via the magic of photosynthesis. Some comes from the atmosphere via microbes in the soil.

 This plant material, either biomass or grain, can be fed to cattle or made into ethanol for motor fuel.

 Both cattle and cars then use an internal digestion/combustion process to extract the energy stored in the plant material.

 Both processes produce gaseous emissions.

Australia backs off

Current worries about the economy and our major trading partners' lack of progress towards carbon pricing may prevent the agriculture sector being covered by the emissions trading scheme in 2015 as scheduled the Government says.

Speaking at Federated Farmers National Council today, Climate Change Minister Nick Smith noted his Government had already said it will not proceed with the inclusion of agriculture and other sectors until it sees comparable progress from other countries.

The entry of the agricultural sector into the ETS has already been delayed once - from 2013 to 2015 and the Government has also increased measures to shield the sector from the full impact of the scheme once it does enter.

Talking to reporters later, Dr Smith said it was too early to say whether agriculture's entry would be delayed.

Australian Prime Minister Julian Gillard in August abandoned plans for a European-style emissions trading scheme.

Australia now has a climate committee looking at whether to proceed with an ETS, a carbon tax or a hybrid of both.

Who wants a carbon tax?

Richard Treadgold | November 15, 2010 | Climate Conversation group-

http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/ 

To the Editor
Climate Conversation

14th November 2010

When the Australian PM says “we need a price on carbon”, she is just sprouting another misleading Wongism like “we must reduce carbon pollution”.

Most forms of carbon already have a price – coal, oil, gas, petrol, diesel, beef, bread, butter, diamonds and whisky all have a price (which usually includes a few taxes).

What Ms Gillard wants, but dares not say, is another tax on our usage of many carbon products.

But who wants a tax on carbon?

The Greens do. They hate humans and their farm animals, crops, coal, oil, cars, power generators and heavy industry. They would like to see the end of most mining, farming, fishing and forestry. A carbon tax will hit all of these people so the Greens support it.

ACT Welcomes News On ETS – But More Is Needed

ACT Deputy Leader and Climate Change Spokesman John Boscawen today welcomed news that Climate Change Minister Dr Nick Smith is seriously considering delaying the inclusion of agriculture in the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), and called on him to now revisit the provisions relating to forestry.

“Dr Smith’s indication that the inclusion of agriculture may be further delayed is a victory for ACT and for commonsense,”

Who Wants a Carbon Tax?

carbon-sense.com newsletter

16 November 2010

The Carbon Sense Coalition said today that to introduce a carbon tax would be to wage war on consumers for the benefit of vested interests.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, also accused Australian PM Gillard of deceptive advertising in her support of a carbon tax.

 “When our PM says “we need a price on carbon”, she is just sprouting another misleading Wongism like “we must reduce carbon pollution”.

National Must Open Its Eyes On ETS

Act Party media release 15 November 2010

ACT Deputy Leader and Climate Change Spokesman John Boscawen today urged the Government to open its eyes and see what New Zealanders have already begun to realise - that the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) poses an enormous risk to our standard of living for absolutely no environmental benefit.

"The climate change survey released today shows more and more New Zealanders are of the view that there is no point in continuing to pour money into the ETS," Mr Boscawen said.

"Our emissions levels are miniscule compared with those of other nations, yet we’re the only country with a comprehensive ETS.  In the absence of meaningful international action, our ETS will not affect the climate - in fact, National may as well start dumping money into the ocean for all the good that its ETS will do for global weather.

"And, as I predicted, the cost of the ETS is causing public opinion to turn even further against the scheme.  While New Zealanders want action on climate change, they don’t want it to be in the form of a scheme that imposes a significant cost burden for absolutely no benefit.

Pastural Farming Climate Research

Members newsletter:

Emissions Factors.

In just 6 weeks agriculture will start the voluntary reporting of the bullshit emissions as calculated using the science defying logic of the Ministry of Bullshit. This is a new ministry that encompasses the Ministry’s of Climate Change issues, Climate Change Negotiations, Environment and Agriculture. The Ministers of Bullshit are jointly, Nick Smith, Tim Grosser, Kate Wilkinson and the hapless David Carter. These people are well suited to the job.

The emission factors that are to be used by processors to determine the carbon liability are;

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